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TheRallyPoint.org Eotac Giveaway

Eotac To Members of TheRallyPoint, In Hopes of helping to promote TRP.org and our Mission Statement,We running a giveaway for the NEW Elite Operator apparel line from Rogue Elite,Eotac Shirts, Eotac Pants Shorts, Eotac Vests and Jackets, 1st Place-$250 of Eotac Apparel, 2nd Place-$175 of Eotac Apparel, 3rd Place-$100 of Eotac Apparel.  Win your choice of any style of tactical pants or tactical apparel.

How to enter? Simple Post on this thread and your name will be added to the list. Also, feel free to check in here and tell us about the places you shoot and ad it to the TRP gun club profiles, Giveaway ends Wed, June 30th at Midnight EST.Winners will be announced July 1st.   Joing TRP and stay up to date on announcements of what we hope will be quarterly giveaways.  Rogue Elite is your source for Elite Operator Tactical clothing.

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Frequently asked questions

tactical shirtsWe get a lot of customers asking us about the new Eotac line of clothing.   It’s no secret that the people behind Eotac were originally behind Woolrich Elite Series tactical clothing.    Many of the products that first came out were very close to the Woolrich Elite products that have been out for several years and were also variations of what 5.11 Tactical has been selling.   There are some differences that you will notices as soon as you put on the clothes and recently I had a phone conversation with a customer that mentioned he needed something that gave him more mobility that 5.11 pants.

Eotac is backed by the Corporation that owns Bushmaster, Remington, DPMS, Marlin Firearms as well as many other companies.   This puts Eotac into some serious competition with 5.11 products just based on who is backing them up.  According to our customers, many of the Eotac pants have pocket desings that are better thought out.   The Warranty on Eotac apparel basically guarantees quality and they’ll send you a new pair out if there is a defect.   Put that up against 5.11 Tactical deteriorating quality control and reputation and you’ll appreciate spending money on tactical shirts, tactical pants and other apparel that has insurance on the money you spent.

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Carrying gear in Spring weather

Tactical JacketsThis military style jacket is designed for modern flashlights and single or double stack mags.   When we need to do a lot of heavy lifting, I don’t like loading my belt up with a belt that looks like Batmans utility belt.    The pocket designs are very well made and the snap buttons on the pocket are what puts it in a A+ category for tactical gear.   When you hear the click of the buttons you don’t have to worry about watching your 15rd doubel stack 9mm mags flying out of the pockets while your doing physical work.   This jacket is defanitely not as heavy looking as it is in some of hte pictures and can easily become a Winter jacket by wearing a good base layer under it.

Recently I was doing work in a rural part of the State.   We were doing a lot of grunt work and we were deployed real early in the morning.   The tough thing about living in an area in the Country were you get all four season is trying to figure out what season you are in and what you should be wearing.   When you walk out the door and see ice hanging from trees, you know it’s cold out, but when it’s sunny and clear in the morning and a little chilly you need to wear something, but you know that by early afternoon it may go from 40F to 70F in just a few hours.    Luckily I had enough experience wearing my Eotac Style 502  Tactical Jacket in the Fall weather we had here that I knew this was just the type of thing to bring with me and I wouldn’t have to worry about being too cold or too hot.

 

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When it’s that hot

Tactical PantsWhen it’s that hot out that your risking dehydration, you seriously need to consider the type of clothing you are wearing.   Those wearing body armor or carrying more gear than the usually CCW gun owner need as many pockets as possible.  Trading your tactical pants in for tactical shorts that have almost the same pocket designs is hard to find.    There is also a very diverse opinion on the inseams of the shorts that people wear and there’s no real in between.

Eotac is now making their tactical shorts in a 7 1/2 inch inseam and a 9 inch.   The fit in the seat is the same as the pants and the hand pockets and back pocket designs are exactly the same.   There are no side cargo pockets, but the face of the shorts have the same useful pockets as all of the Eotac tactical pants.  You can put a 20rd AR15 magazine in this pocket or something like a Kimber Guardian.   The hand pockets have that deep wide design that can fit a large set of keys or firearm.   The lightweight cotton ripstop design will keep you as cool as you can possible be.

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The one that doesn’t look like a fishing vest

CCW VestI’ve heard that line asked about 5 times a month.  You have to realize the number of people that carry guns in our society vs. the number that don’t.  I’d say that in most cases, 98% of people in our society aren’t looking to spot a CCW holder and won’t suspect that are unless that are sloppy at concealing it.  I highly recommend that most gun carries consider atleast 3 ways of carrying a firearm concealed.   In most parts of the Country people have to consider a warm weather and cold weather method, then there is always a reason to consider what method one could carry a full size auto.

You have to think about how to blend in with your environment.  If you are in an environment where people are always wearing vests, you’ll easily fit in.  But if you are at public event and it’s 95F out and you’re wearing anything more than a T-Shirt you’ll easily stand out.   The reality is who really cares if someone *thinks* you might be carrying.  Police carry openly and they still have to watch out for being targeted.   Be aware of your surroundings before you worry about incoming sniper fire while your using a CCW Vest for concealment.

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Concealment Garment Vs. Firearm Retention

CCW VestWhen a CCW carrier is carrying a firearm in the winter, we can understand why they may want a firearm in a pocket outside of their body, but I recommend putting some thought into how you wear your clothing and how a firearm can be reached in when wearing heavy clothing.  Jackets that hold firearms will have to come off if you’re in a house or building that gets  hot, so then what do you do with  your gun?  The Eotac Style 102 CCW Vest is cut very long and is great for concealing in warm weather, but not a firearm retention vest.

We have been getting a lot of confused customers that think every piece of clothing is suppose to HOLD a firearm.   Tactical Pants, Tactical Shirts, Tactica Vests and Tactical Jackets aren’t necessarily replacements for a holster.   Although being able to fit a firearm in a pocket is possible with all of the above, trying to stuff a Glock 30 in a vest that is made of basically the same thing as a T-Shirt isn’t a good idea.  We’ve had a few angry emails and phone calls from customers this year that tried to do that and said we were falsely advertising the vest as a CCW Vest and it was not.  Well…….

 

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Concealment and situational awarness

CCW VestOpen carry isn’t stopping Police Officers in Philadelphia from being shot at.  Wearing a blue uniform in that City and wearing body armor meant over 6 police officers being killed at more than double that being shot in the last 2yrs.    If you are that concerned about being “Made” with a firearm, carry a different gun.   Pocket and ankle carry are suitiable for white color environments and I don’t know any BG that wants 5 or 6 shots of 32acp-44 Special in their chest from a well trained law abiding gun owner.

The CCW Vest discussions usually go like this, if you look like you are carrying a gun you’re an easy target.   Well, if you look like you don’t have a gun, you’re also an easy target.    If you are open carrying the debate is radically changed.   Open Carry is legal in most States, but I along with many others would highly recommend against it in urban environments.   Every gun owner should be in the mindset that they have 1 up on a BG.   Cover your firearm and pay attention to  your surroundings, that’s probable the best advice I would give anyone that carrys a gun.

 

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IDPA Vest or CCW Vest Option

CCW VestOne of our biggest selling apparel item is the Eotac Style 102 Vest.   This vest is very similiar to the Woolrich Elite vest, but they are outselling them 3 to 1 these days.   The only real difference we see is the lack of a pen pocket on the upper left pocket which means absolutely nothing to our customers.   These have very low below the belt line and are  a great OWB or Paddle holster CCW vest.  You will easily be able to conceal a full size auto with one of these.   The Style 102 vest is made of 100% cotton ripstop and is a very, very lightweight concealment garment.

The front pockets are primarily for storing gear.   We have had a few customers misinterpret the use of the vest as a firearm retention device, but we strongly recommend against trying to hide a gun in the front pockets.   This material is lightweight and you will most likely print your firearm if carrying in that manor.   If you are taking a defensive class and looking for a concealment garment, this is an excellent CCW Vest.   Khaki is by far the most popular color and the sage is a very mild and casual color that goes well with tan or khaki pants.

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Tactical Pants cut down

Tactical PantsMost of us that are in the industry are wearing some sort of tactical pants or ccw pants for most of the year.  When it gets into the summer months we have to think about losing some of the accessories and gear or having to sweat it out.   For most of the year, lightweight pants are a good option even if we know we’re going to be sweating it out, it’s good to have pants that can protect you from poison ivy or bug bites.

If have the ability to avoid wearing pants and we can get away with shorts, the fit and design of the Eotac lightweight tactical shorts are superior to anything we’ve worn from any other company.   I know 5.11 tactical pants some good stuff, but lets be honest, they’ve gotten pretty bad in the quality control department and i’ve had issues with their tactical shorts riding up in the crotch.   If this happens when we wear pants its one thing, but when your nuts are hanging of your shorts, it’s not very professional.   Due to demand, the style 301 shorts are made in a 9″ inseams and the 302 are a 7″1/2 inseam.   Ever body is going to prefer one over the other because were all  made differently.

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Casual pants with a tactical appeal

Tactical PantsIf you are toting around a knife, flashlight, gun, keys and a wallet, you might find regular jeans are pretty stuffed in the pocket area.   If you have to tuck a shirt in you’ll be even more cluttered.   Many recommend avoiding the clip on knife in the pocket as a dead giveaway that you are carrying, so what do you do?   If you are familiar with the Eotac Style 204 cotton canvas pants, the Eotac style 205 concealed carry pants are identical but made in a jean fabric.

These tactical pants have a side leg pant pockets on each side that can hold a small J-frame, Kimber Guardian Angel, mace, G2 or scorpion size flashlight or just about whatever tool you want to carry in that size.   This is something to consider when doing a lot of driving or accessing gear while in the seated position.   From my experience the zippers are very secure and reliable.   The jeans are very comfortable and not the purplish blue that many of our customers complained about with a previous companies version.

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